Weekend Show – Joe Mazumdar & Dan Steffens – Gold, Silver, Oil & Nat Gas Analysis: Which Segment Of Stocks Offer The Best Opportunities?
Welcome to The KE Report Weekend Show! This weekend’s show is focused on the investing environment for metals stocks, gold and silver mostly, and energy stocks, oil and natural gas. There continues to be a clear divergence between the large cap stocks vs the small caps so we isolate the types of stocks that are best set up heading into 2025.
We hope you all enjoy this weekend’s show! Please keep in touch with us through email. Our email addresses are Fleck@kereport.com and Shad@kereport.com.
- Segment 1 & 2 – Joe Mazumdar, Editor of Exploration Insights joins us to provide an in-depth review of the metal sector’s performance in 2024, with a special focus on gold, silver, and copper. Joe discusses the factors driving the precious metals market, including central bank purchases, geopolitical crises, and retail demand. The conversation extends to the permitting and development challenges in mining, the role of foreign investment in Canada, and the evolving landscape in South America’s mining industry.
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Click here to visit the Exploration Insights website to follow along with Joe.
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Segment 3 and 4 – Dan Steffens, President of the Energy Prospectus Group wraps up the show by shifting our focus to the energy sector with a dive into oil and natural gas markets. Dan analyzes the current trends in oil prices and expectations for the coming year. He also explores the dynamics of the natural gas market, focusing on weather-driven demand and LNG exports. Additionally, Dan presents evaluations of two energy companies—Civitas Resources (CIVI) and Hemisphere Energy (HME.V and HMENF)—highlighting their production forecasts, financial health, and market potential.
- Click here to visit the Energy Prospectus Group website for more energy market and stock analysis.
Trump’s current stance will make him the Hoover of our age!
Of course that affects western Canada especially Alberta and Saskatchewan… so no problem for him.
The Canadian dollar took a tumble yesterday because of the tension tariff war that is well underway between Canada and the US. Canada stands to lose a lot more if this battle keeps shaping up, with over 2 million citizens using public food banks daily and with over 1400 tent encampments in Ontario alone we are in a “DEPRESSION”. That amounts to one person in five living in the province of Ontario requiring food from the food banks. We haven’t seen a Depression for 95 years, but we are seeing one here and now. Canada has now had 6 quarters of negative GDP growth.
Yesterday I went grocery shopping, and I noticed a number of food items I normally buy are up 25%, in just a few days. This is serious stuff that the mainstream media doesn’t discuss or acknowledge. DT
Wow DT that is sad!
Hadn’t bought a veggie platter in a while. $22…. Think it was $12 the last time I remember getting one. A few yrs yes but almost double. 😮
Funny, years ago I mentioned the price of campells soup, price was about 25 cents and it moved up to 50 cents.
I said to people that was huge, their response was “big deal, its only a quarter”
I think it might be a good idea not to be living in a city if possible.
My favorite as a kid was chicken noodle. Those cans are 3AUD in Australia now
If Trump puts on the 25% tariff on the Canadian Auto Industry it will shut down and a detached home in Alliston On. will go from $750,000-$800,000 to $200,000 to $250.000, the carpetbaggers will be waiting! Where I am living now, we had a housing correction in 1989-1990 and houses dropped from $1,000,000 to $275,000-$350,000, and we weren’t in a depression so they could drop much further. DT
the housing correction is going to happen due to over leverage, locks, and slowing economy.
Trump uses tariffs as negotiation tactic. I believe when he negotiates with the new prime minister in 2025 they will come to a mutually beneficial agreement for both countries.
Opportunities in Silver Explorers and Developers – Part 6 (Aftermath Silver)
Excelsior Prosperity w/ Shad Marquitz (12/14/2024)
https://excelsiorprosperity.substack.com/p/opportunities-in-silver-explorers-8b1
I just came across this interesting article on Uranium investing, WOW! This guy really knows his stuff, he must be a wunderkind uranium Whiz kid. LOL! DT 🤣👍😜
https://excelsiorprosperity.substack.com/p/uranium-demand-is-going-nuclear
Haha! Thanks DT!
For the last 4 years EFR-TSX hasn’t done much and I’m sure its day will come but when? Ex likes it a lot, but he has more patience than most investors. DT
Go back 5 years (instead of just 4) and EFR is up quite handsomely 6x to 7x off its pandemic crash lows. The move already played out very nicely for those that were paying attention to the trends and buying low in 2017, 2018, 2019, or 2020. I sure was and actively traded UUUU dozens and dozens of times playing for counter-trend rallies.
I was even buying more UUUU (the US ticker for Energy Fuels) and UEC and URG and DNN and NXE back in March and April of 2020 right during the pandemic crash in the markets, even though I wasn’t planning on adding any more to my positions previous to that. I figured at the time that the world was not ending and eventually the quality uranium stocks would have their day…. I did so in many good gold, silver, lithium, copper, and uranium stock into that carnage.
Well the uranium equities absolutely did have their day and rallied bigly all the way into late 2021, with most up 5x-20x in that time period. That was a pretty exciting time to be in EFR/UUUU. I sold 85% of my uranium positions on that rally in October of 2021 for multi-bagger returns. (and said so multiple times in real time as it was happening). It ended up being a month too soon as they actually rallied all the way into November… but it was close enough for my liking and I caught the majority of the move. Energy Fuels was not as epic is say UEC or EU or DNN, but it still had quite a massive move regardless (much more epic than most PM stocks did).
When things sold off into 2022, and people started proclaiming that was it and the uranium bubble had popped (which was ridiculous as the longer term bull market was still just getting under way), then I started accumulating again into that weakness… and kept on doing so into mid-2023, and then most stocks had a whole other big rally into the 2nd half of 2023 into early 2024 (but to your point, Energy Fuels was a laggard during that particular leg of the bull market and didn’t act like most of the other uranium stocks).
I sold about 20-30% of my other positions like enCore and Uranium Royalty Corp, and Denison and NexGen and Ur-Energy in late January and February 2024, but elected to keep my full Energy Fuels position as it hadn’t participated as much. Then as this year played out I bought most of those positions back over the course of this year that I had been trimming and am once again mostly fully allocated and in solid green positions in all of them except the explorers I bought this year like Cosa and Forum that did get hit to the downside like almost all the uranium explorers did.
One potential reason why Energy Fuels didn’t really track the movements of the uranium ETFs like URNM or URNJ or URA, or most of the other uranium stocks like EU or UEC is that it decided to buy large rare earth projects in Madagascar, Kenya, and Tanzania, since it can process the radioactive elements along with the REEs and most companies can’t. I think this threw the uranium investors for a loop, and they went into the penalty box for moving into other commodities. Energy Fuels isn’t really getting credit for these acquisitions yet, but I like their ability to actually produce REEs (unlike 99% of rare earth dreamers and schemers that don’t have a prayer of making it into production). They’ll have a dual track Uranium + REEs production year in 2025 and I’m here for it. 🙂
To be honest with you Ex, your genius is in commodity trading, most of us don’t have nearly the ability to hold 70 stocks and to have 50 stocks rambling around in our brains while trying to figure out whether they are investment candidates and then to be able to swing trade the stocks in your portfolio. All the time figuring out where the market is moving and skating there ahead of the puck. I don’t how you find time to live. (or drink beer)
When someone like me questions you on a particular stock you can come up with so much information that is stored in your personal memory. It requires a lot of time just to read your thoughts and think about a couple of your investments, in just one sector like precious metals, not to mention all the other areas of investing you are ruminating about. Cheers and Beers, DT
Thanks for the kind words DT. Yes I do spend a fair bit of time on sector and company research, and have for about 15 years on resource stocks. (and still find time for both life and beer:)
However, I’d submit it is not as time consuming as some people make it. For example if one can see a megatrend developing (like what we’ve seen in uranium the last 4-5 years), then it just made sense to be in the handful of US producers and near term producers like Energy Fuels, enCore, UEC, Ur-Energy, etc… that ate going to get the incoming bids from investors.
With gold or silver it’s the same thing. There has been the next leg of the bull market unfolding since late 2022, and there are both high-quality companies and then companies with optionality torque to just have exposure to in one’s portfolio. One diesn’t need to spend that much time researching once a company is vetted… just add on dips and trim back on rips.
Is anybody else interested in the amazing number of Drone sightings that have been occurring in increasing intensity over the last 5 weeks. Yesterday evening my wife spotted what looked like a UFO out our kitchen window, I went up to the sunroom and watched it hover for about 30 minutes, there were three lights two bright white ones and a red one in the middle. Maybe we are in for a close encounter. The military will probably want to erect an electrical fence around the earth that should get the uranium stocks moving. LOL! DT
Gann Global gold stocks webinar
https://vimeo.com/user87266803
Hi Ex, do you drink coconut water, it has a lot of potassium that our bodies need to combine with salt to maintain a healthy electrolyte. Most people are potassium deficient, keeping your electrolytes in balance is an important factor for healthy living. Most supplements for potassium don’t come near the amount our bodies need on a daily basis. DT
Hi DT. Yes, in the summer I drink coconut water to help with hydration as it does have a lot of naturally occurring electrolytes.
Take a big gulp of seawater during morning swim and that contains all minerals. It’s free
Yikes! That’s one way to do it I guess Terry. 🙂
Personally, I still remember accidentally swallowing too much sea water in a snorkeling mishap in Mexico and feeling absolutely terrible and having so many fluids leaving my body that I got super dehydrated after getting too much initial salt and going into panic recovery mode of purging.
I think I leaving the gulping of seawater for others… but am a big fan of getting proper electrolytes during physical activities or extreme heat.
Market timer Stan Harley called ‘the’ top as happening during the week of December 6th. So far, he is correct for DIA and SPY, but QQQ lagged a week, having possibly topped this past Friday, the 13th. (NYA and RUT topped in November.)
However, for QQQ in Saturation terms (Trend Quality), ultimate and penultimate levels of 7 and 6 had occurred on December 5th and 6th, with nothing thereafter. A clear break, so far, leading into the FOMC meeting this week, and with Trump’s stiffening tariff policy hovering overhead.
Will Santa bring coal this year? BDC
It is going to be interesting to see if the general markets get a Santa rally or if they get coal this year the last 2 weeks of the month. There still seems to be a lot of unbridled enthusiasm and euphoric speculation in the general markets, with very few bears left at all for US equities.
Of course, that is always what we see at market tops, but the euphoria usually lasts longer than most rational people can believe… because it is fueled by emotions and greed and recency bias… not logic.
I’ve not shorted the general markets since late 2021 but am strongly considering starting to short the Nasdaq and S&P500 sometime in early 2025 as the popular delusions and madness of crowds potentially hits another apex.
Ex – Last week Harley hedged and pushed it to January; but, if QQQ fails soon, his initial take may be much more on the mark. In any case, I think the Trump tariff policy – how far it goes (if at all) – will be a major driver. BDC
Yeah, the Trump tariff strategy is front and center for many next year. Again, it’s best to react at the time to what his administration actually does, than to stew over so many sectors in advance of anything real happening. I agree that if we get a real tariff and trade war going between many nations, then the market exuberance may wane and we may see more of a corrective year than a further to-the-moon rally.
Indeed, and whatever it is, will ‘they’ buy the news or sell the news? 😉
NatGas is in a grey zone, tending downward, for now. BDC
https://www.tradingview.com/x/Y8qxvowa/
NatGas: Approaching Breakout (Yellow)
‘Embrace The Expanding Bubble’
Jesse Felder – The Felder Report (12/14/2024)
I’m going to have to disagree with you Ex. I think you are down playing your hard work. I can honestly say I’ve been doing better since I scaled back the number of stocks I hold as I realized I wasn’t able to keep a full eye on all the daily activity of each holding while still doing my day job and being a husband and father. I focus on the macro news first and then find the best play or 2 in that sector. I do look forward to when I have more time to devout to just investing and that becomes my so called job
On another note. Have I just not seen his posts or has Matthew been away for a while. Miss those charts
Thanks for the kind words Wolfster. Yes, I do work hard to keep up with a larger basket of companies (both in my portfolio and outside of it), because this is what I do for a living. I get that many people are just speculating part-time, and for some having a smaller more concentrated portfolio in just a handful of names is a better approach; IF one has high confidence in those stocks. For some investors that don’t want the inherent risk that comes with individual companies then the ETFs are really the better way to play it, and in many cases investors would have done better just betting on an ETF for a specific sector versus going all in on a few risky individual company names.
Some investors have literally hundreds of stocks, while some go all in on one asset class like Bitcoin, or Real Estate, or Nvidia, or a Mutual Fund for retirement. Different strokes for different folks.
The point I was trying to make is that once someone has done their initial due diligence and vetted a company, there isn’t really that much more work to do other than keep a cursory glance on future news. Most companies have a way where you can just have their news emailed out each time they put out a press release, so it’s as simple as checking one’s inbox. They are not putting out news daily or even weekly in most cases, so there just IS NOT that much to keep up with… even on 50 positions, or 150 positions. Not much really changes day to day or week to week in most stocks…
As for daily activity, I don’t really fret much over that, and believe so many investors that claim to be “buy and hold” “value investors” spend waaaaaaaaaay too much time fretting over daily action in their stocks and are overthinking things, and this causes them to make poor decisions reacting emotionally to daily wobbles. If you like a stock and your entry price (or average cost basis after layering into a position) and have a 1-3 year time horizon, then you really don’t have to spend hardly any time on it after that (unless something drastic changes).
For example, if someone loves royalty companies, and likes the allocation and assets to a given company’s royalties, then it really doesn’t require hardly any more time to hold them in one’s portfolio each month. For example: I’ve got Sandstorm, EMX, Elemental Altus, Vox, Metalla, and Orogen at present, and I really spend less than 5 minutes on each one each month for due diligence, unless I’m preparing for an interview with one of them. It’s the same thing with most producers or developers.
They are mostly set it and forget it stocks for me, and I’ll occasionally increase or decrease them based on how I want to utilize funds in other investments or based on their chart setups, but even those trades only take a couple of minutes of analysis. Once I really like a stock, and if it is liquid enough, then the only thing I watch is where to trim back positions on rallies, or where to add more on pullbacks. Nothing really that substantial fundamentally changes in these stocks from month to month (or most stocks for that matter). The only stocks that really need to be monitored closely on fundamentals are companies flirting with solvency or exploration drill plays (where either they hit or they don’t hit on a given drill campaign).
–> People that proclaim that they “just don’t have time to trade” are full of their own excuses.
(that is definitely not directed at you Wolfster… but just more of a blanket comment as I hear that rubbish all the time and it is complete nonsense).
>> It takes only a few minutes per day to look at a chart, decide a trade is appropriate, and then place a limit order in one’s account. Limit orders can execute while you aren’t even watching the account. I’m a very active trader and do so all the time and it literally takes 2-3 minutes and then anyone can go back to their daily life. Trading takes almost no time if done correctly, and most people waste FAR more time on social media or debating global or national news that has no real impact on their daily lives. When people say that they “don’t have time to trade” that is just pure BS.
It’s the same point when when people say that they don’t have time to follow multiple commodities or sectors. That is also BS. It only takes a minute or 2 to size up a whole sector on a chart and decide if it is running, basing sideways, or correcting and ultimately if you want to participate in a trade or not.
So for gold or silver or copper or uranium or lithium or oil or nat gas or whatever… someone can know in a minute or two if they want to be in that sector now, wait on it, or avoid it completely. If they want to act on it they can trade ETFs, or Futures, or options, or individual stocks. It’s not rocket science… it is as simple as pull up chart, make a decision, and hit the buy or sell button in one’s trading account. This takes only minutes…
>> When I was discussing Uranium stocks up above, it was the exact same point. If one knows that the uranium price has to move higher then it is a “when?” question… not an “if?” question. When the pandemic crash was happening, it was super simple to have the mindset “Ok, the quality uranium, lithium, gold, silver, copper companies will eventually move higher again, these prices are nuts, I’m going to buy as many as I can of the quality names.”
—> There wasn’t anything “to keep up with” or “all this time needed” or “all this research to do…” You just buy the best names or the names with torque that will recover when sanity returns to the valuations… and behold a year later most of the best stocks in each commodity were up multiple fold. What was there to know or spend time on? (that is all nonsense excuse making and masks the simple reality we do as investors – push a button to buy or sell something).
People waste SO MUCH time every day worrying about so many things that don’t really matter or with all their small talk that isn’t really important about who won a game or what a celebrity or politician said or whatever… and it again has no real impact on their lives. They do this without thinking of all the time that takes, and yet they willingly choose to invest their time there, rather than spending a couple minutes placing a simple trade that could actually be quite meaningful economically to their lives and families.
Back to the point though, for most stocks, there isn’t that much to keep up with on a monthly basis. Most companies put out news 1 or 2 times a month (if that), and it rarely is so important that it really shifts the trajectory of the stock in a meaningful way. So what in the world are people spending all their time “researching?”
>> Now, in speaking with hundreds and hundreds of investors over the years, I’m convinced that most people spend the majority of their time talking to other investors or seeking out their opinions in interviews, chat rooms, or messaging to see what other people think about a stock or sector. That’s not really true due diligence and is all opinion based at the end of the day. Seeking approval or validation from others is quite often a huge waste of time, and most other investors end up being wrong about a catalyst, outcome, price target, turn, etc… all the time anyway. Sure, sometimes people will bring up red flags or green flags you may not have known about, but in general that is not as productive as doing a deep dive on the company, making a decision that the stock is or is not something you want to invest in, and then pulling up a chart to look for good entry or exit points.
I’m a very simple investor, and usually simplicity is best in investing. I research a sector first, and then a company second to decide if it is a stock that I want a position in. After that, I use charts to look for places to buy and sell it. Once it’s vetted and I have a position in it, there really isn’t much else to do, except check in on it occasionally, and check the price action on the charts for a minute or two once in a while. If some critical news actually does break that surprises the market, then there was nothing I could have done to prepare for that anyway, and I react accordingly.
Sure, I’ll do some of the same as others and check in on the scuttlebutt around a stock, but I spend very little time seeking the opinions of others on my own investments. Of course, at the KER we interview some of the best thought leaders in the sector to get a gauge on what others are saying and what stocks they like, but ultimately I don’t really care what other people think about an investment I’m making. Quite often I do well in investments that other supposed “experts” trash talk, and I’ve watched the best of the best be wrong plenty in the picks they make, or miss great opportunities by being to skeptical or dismissive of stocks or entire sectors on the move.
Personally, I do my own research, look at the charts, and then make a trade. I own it as an action taken personally, and never blame other people for listening to what they think and getting hoodwinked. Real investing and trading only takes a few minutes once someone knows what they are doing to size up a value proposition, make a decision, and then act on it by hitting the buy or sell button. It is not a time consuming activity, unless people convince themselves that pouring over the fundamental or technical data for hours is somehow going to get them to come to some radically different view. (99 times out of 100 it won’t… it’s just another way to waste time). People’s obsessions and their opinions are the time consuming activity… not sizing up a sector or stock and making a trade.
The advantage to having a diversified portfolio versus a super-concentrated portfolio, is that no position is going to kill you or blow up your account. Conversely, you aren’t going to get rich quickly for being right 1-2 times in a swing-for-the-fences super risky bet, but if you are more right than wrong on a basket of stocks, and rebalance periodically, then you’ll accumulate wealth over time.
Short and to the point as always Ex. 😜
Don’t disagree with anything you said the only point I’d add is what I’ve learned is TA trumps fundamentals/news every time….and by that I mean the daily stock charts always give signs of a breakdown before the news is announced be it an unexpected pp etc or to the upside be it an acquisition or great drill results. The more stocks you own the more daily charts you need to keep an eye even if you’re a buy and hold guy. Need to get out of bad stocks before the bad news crushes it. On the upside it’s no worries obviously.
Anyone else have remorse of not getting more EMO before this obvious move. 🙄
Hi Wolfster, not me I was buying last week and I picked up some more first thing this morning. I sent you a chart of EMO on a newer thread. LOL! DT
Haha! Good one Wolfster. 🙂
Yes, I agree that the daily chart trumps the newsflow, and that is my point about once a position in place that there is very little to do (and very little time required) except to pull up a chart from time to time and keep a cursory glance of the news (there are times where a news story trumps the technical set up too).
Again, in just 1 minute once or twice a week, one can have a look at a chart to see if it is in danger of crashing or surging, it if is trending above or below key moving averages, where the RSI is, and if a key and obvious trendline is being violated or supported.
>> For most stocks not much changes technically day to day or week to week, so for buy and hold investors that are not supposed to be taking drastic action on every little blip down or pop higher, then again, it still doesn’t take much time and ultimately doesn’t matter much.
Even a portfolio like I have of 50 stocks, at about a minute or so a piece for a technical update once a week is less than an hour a week for the whole portfolio. Some stocks have so little price action changes that they don’t even warrant pulling up a chart every week on them.
Again, people that say they don’t have enough time to manage their portfolios or follow that many stocks are just using an excuse as there is PLENTY of time in the week to find an hour for rapid-fire due diligence on a portfolio of under 60 stocks.
The issues arise when people spend way too much time diving into the weeds on fundamentals or on charts, (ie… putting on a million overlays, and multiple trendlines, clouds, forks, moving averages, pivot points, kelter channels, bollinger bands, etc… only to get bogged down in analysis paralysis, and still end up getting the direction or price moves wrong afterwards).
Yes, use the technicals and fundamentals, but don’t get so bogged down in too much data that it causes one gets their knickers in a twist. Most of that is just going to be wasted time and it is unnecessary to execute winning trades. Sure if something is unclear, maybe spend 2-3 minutes and add a few more overlays or indicators for multiple points of confirmation, but in most instances that is not required. Just look at where the price action is trending in relation to simple TA parameters and news and react accordingly.
Unless someone is a day trader or very short-term swing trader, then the pricing moves on the charts are irrelevant to their stated 1-3 year time horizons for holding a stock through an evolving bull market move.
Canada’s finance minister resigns the morning of her financial update… gut punch fer turdeau;
https://financialpost.com/news/finance-minister-chrystia-freeland-resigns-from-cabinet
The r*ts are leaving the titanic but what really matters is when BIGGIE leaves. DT
I hope the mofo goes down all the way the way the conservatives did in the early 90s and lose their party status.
My apology for a political rant on the investor side, but this is the most significant thing that has happened in Canadian politics in awhile… that isn’t a rat that is jumping ship, that is a general!!!
Trudeau is next
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Young Castro?
I cannot overstate the importance of this sight for the PM market, the US$ reacts to anything important.
I am now thinking that the next leader of Canada will reverse some of the dumber things like the tariff retaliation that turdeau had in mind. His idea was to screw Alberta and Saskatchewan over by increasing our tariffs to the US on energy commodities, whomever is next may have other ideas and stocks like Denison, DML, that I own may have a reprieve of the smack down they have taken, although it is still tax loss season.
Stillwater, PGE, getting to the super buy zone again soon IMO…
This from zero hedge, on talking about where the tariffs for Canada are likely to be implemented, For those reasons, analysts have said they expect Trump will exempt commodities from his threat to place 25% levies on goods from Mexico and Canada, and focus instead on using tariffs against their manufacturing industries. In Canada’s case, that includes the auto manufacturing, aerospace and aluminum sectors, which are centered in Ontario and Quebec, where about 60% of Canadians live. DT
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/canadian-dollar-tumbles-after-turdeau-sic-reportedly-weighs-export-tax-uranium-oil